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LOCAL
5
COUNCIL
MEETING
February
28,
2003
Chairman:
Doug
Gamble
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Minutes:
Mike
Dempsey
In
attendance:
Kimpton
Bradford,
Mike
Dempsey,
Doug
Gamble,
Rick
Stewart,
Norm
Hawkes,
Mike
Benedictson,
Ross
Graham,
Brian
Randall,
Tracy
Cove,
Terry
Friedrich
(alternate
for
Wayne
Bowles),
Byron
Kessler
(alternate)Gerry
Matthews,
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1.
Call
to
order
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0915
hrs.
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Action
Item:
None
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2.
Introduction
of
Officers
and
Guests:
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Peggy
Hoffman,
Jason
Pankratow,
Mark
Seville
(assigned
for
PREP),
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3.
Minutes
of
Previous
Meeting
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M/S/C
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Action
Items:
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4.
Business
Arising
From
Minutes
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Rocky
will
present
the
Life
Membership
plaque
to
Bob
Glover
on
March
31st
in
Rocky
at
the
chapter
AGM.
Dan
is
planning
on
attending.
Anyone
wanting
to
attend
can
do
so
as
a
guest
of
the
chapter.
Mike
Benedictson
has
nothing
to
report
on
Edmonton
chapter
revitilization
ideas.
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Action
Item:
None
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5.
Correspondence
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M/S/C
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Letter
from
Lakeland
College
advising
that
Awards
Night
will
be
held
on
March
19th,
2003.
We
have
a
bursary
at
Lakeland.
Gary
Walsh
will
do
presentation.
Letter
to
Mike
Cardinal
dated
November
27,
2002,
from
Dan
MacLennan
expressing
concerns
about
current
downsizing
exercise
in
Department.
Email
from
Mike
Dempsey
to
Doug
Gamble
and
Brian
Randall
on
inquiry
from
an
FPT
in
the
FPD
regarding
OT
payment
perceived
discrepancy
paid
to
those
to
getting
full
night's
rest.(8
hours).
Email
from
Mike
Dempsey
discussing
lookouts.
Letter
from
Dan
MacLennan
dated
February
14,
2003
to
Shirley
Howe,
Director
(Public
Service
Commissioner)
requesting
a
review
of
mileage,
insurance,
and
subsistence
rates.
Letter
from
Dan
MacLennan
to
all
"Convention
Call"
set
for
October
23,
24,
25,
2003
at
Ramada
Inn.
Memo
from
E
Mardell
dated
February
5,
2003
to
all
Local
Treasurers
requiring
all
Locals
to
provide
to
union
HQ
info
with
respect
to
reporting
honorariums
for
purposes
of
preparing
T4/T4A
slips
(for
$
over
500
dollars).
Email
between
Doug
and
Brian
on
who
can
claim
meals.
No
policy
yet
via
Dianne
Dunnne
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Action
Item:
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6.
Report
Of
Officers
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Chair
–
verbal
report.
Meeting
at
end
of
November.
Dealt
with
complaints
with
another
Local;
sent
flowers
to
Wayne
Bowles.
Nothing
exciting.
M/S/C
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Vice
Chair
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nothing
to
report.
M/S/C
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Secretary
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verbal
report.
I
have
been
reelected
to
Local
Council.
M/S/C
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Treasurer
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written
report
submitted
by
Wayne
Bowles.
All
of
our
bank
statements,
cheque
stubs,
and
receipts
were
submitted
to
HQ
for
audit
purposes
on
Feb
3,
2003.
Wayne
directed
HQ
to
find
info
needed
to
honorarium
T4
slips
in
info
he
sent
into
HQ.
Motion
to
accept
report:
M/S/C
Motion
(Terry)
and
2nded
(Ross)
to
forward
funds
of
$318.23
to
Chapter
11
to
bring
them
up
to
$800.
M/S/C
Motion
(Rick
Stewart)
and2nded
by
Mike
Benedictson
to
donate
$1000
to
Diakonos
and
provide
them
with
an
endorsement
for
their
brochures.
Discussion
follows.
M/S/C
Motion
to
table
this
to
our
AGM
to
give
more
time
to
think
about
this.
Motion
by
Kim
Bradford,
and
2nded
by
Tracy
Cove
M/S/NOT
CARRIED
Motion
to
provide
$75
for
flowers
to
Wayne
Bowles
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P.E.
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2
meetings
since
last
report
(December
7,
February
8).
Next
one
is
in
GP
on
April
12.
Written
reports
submitted.
M/S/C
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Action
Item:
If
anyone
is
interested
in
any
standing
committee,
please
advise
Doug.
Positions
come
available
periodically.
Action
item:
encourage
youth
(under
30)
to
join
youth
committee.
Conference
is
planned
for
September
19-21.
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7.
Committee
Reports
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Negotiations
(Randall):
wage
reopener
will
be
coming
up
soon.
There
are
some
significant
gains
occurring
with
3rd
year
wage
reopeners
with
some
locals
now.
Notice
to
bargain
will
come
out
on
or
about
the
2nd
week
of
June.
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EMAC
-
(Randall)
Meeting
is
April
3rd
in
Edmonton.
Numerous
items:
CD
turmoil
needs
to
be
dealt
with.
OHS
committee
structuring.
PREP
will
be
on
the
agenda.
Northern
allowance
travel
allowance.
Criteria
for
specialist
modifiers
and
linkage
to
PREP.
Training
in
relation
to
OT-
Definitions
of
"training".
OT
on
fires
overnight,
where
you'
ve
had
less
than
8
hours
rest.
Resource
people
not
being
used
on
fires
anymore
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More
clarification
needed
here.
FO
I's
to
FO
2's
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there
are
no
clear
guidelines
on
transition.
Byron
Kessler
has
accepted
postion
on
EMAC
-
he
will
be
a
replacement
for
Wes
Nimco.
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Action
Item:
Go
to
chapters
and
forward
concerns
for
agenda
to
Brian,
Doug,
and
Kim.
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8.
NEW
BUSINESS
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Mark
Seville
(union
rep
for
PREP):
there
will
be
no
loss
of
pay
(letter
of
understanding).
Worst
case
scenario:
potential
to
have
pay
frozen
over
(Local
2
experience).
Mark
handed
out
a
list
of
PREP
websites.
With
local
2
experience,
118
classifications
reduced
to
28.
Some
in
local
6
saw
a
substantial
increase
in
salary
due
to
education;
with
Local
5,
it
will
depend
on
how
'screwed'
up
current
classification
is,
in
determining
new
classification
rates.
Mark
then
gave
a
brief
discussion
of
what
PREP
is,
and
where
it
came
from.
PREP
was
originally
based
on
HAY
system,
PREP
does
not
consider
working
conditions,
so
can
no
longer
be
called
HAY.
PREP
classification
put
points
on
3
factors
considered
(knowledge,
creativity
and
problem
solving,
responsibility
)
salary
is
driven
by
how
many
points
your
position
is
assigned.
In
job
description,
spend
at
least
half
your
time
describing
knowledge
(word
to
the
wise).
Locals
5
and
3
are
supposed
to
be
next
for
PREP.
At
that
time
AUPE
will
hold
workshops
for
training.
Doug:
we
need
to
put
a
committee
together
of
6
reps
(7
classifications
represented:
CD
Parks,
SRD
FO
(2
streams
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Fire
and
TM
),
F&W,
Prof.
(foresters,
biologists),
towerpersons,
communication
people,
radio
operators
today
to
represent
the
LOCAL
on
PREP.
Brian:
let's
put
the
committee
into
existence,
but
let's
wait
for
the
AGM's
to
go
through,
so
that
we
can
find
out
from
the
members
who
is
interested.
Doug:
this
will
be
full
time
work
for
a
period
of
time
(between
1-2
months,
perhaps),
most
likely
this
summer.
Doug
says
he
is
interested,
and
he
will
approach
other
CD
and
F&W
officers
on
who
wants
to
get
involved
in
the
committee.
We
will
look
at
the
nominees
for
the
committee
at
the
next
meeting
(AGM).
If
we
need
to
put
the
committee
together
earlier
we
will
conference
call
on
it.
Bottom
line:
have
nominees
in
place
by
end
of
April.
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Presentation
by
Diakonos
(Greek
word
meaning
minister
or
servant)
Peace
Officer
Retreat
Society.
This
is
a
society
created
to
deal
with
supporting
Peace
Officers
and
their
family
members
as
they
deal
with
job
related
stress
unique
to
Peace
officers
(police
officers,
conservation
officers,
park
rangers,
forest
officers,
etc.).
Each
council
member
went
home
with
a
number
of
brochures
on
the
society.
Goal
of
the
presentation:
to
help
promote
Diakonos
and
its
retreats
and
conferences.
Http://www.diakonosretreat.com
is
the
website.
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Forest
Officer-in-training
(FPD):
two
competition
posters
came
out.
Concerns:
we
should
have
input
into
it.
What
is
classification?
FA?
FO
1?
How
can
you
say
that
one
must
stay
in
one
location
for
minimum
of
3
years?
lots
of
unanswered
questions.
Discussion
ensued.
Is
this
a
good
thing?
Or
poorly
thought
out?
Sounds
like
a
ticket
to
a
remote
location.
There
is
a
perception
that
this
position
will
lead
to
FPT's,
or
higher,
without
the
requirement
for
the
prerequisite
education.
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Action
Items:
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9.
GENERAL
DISCUSSION
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Labour
School:
We
are
sending
two.
Kimpton
Bradford,
and
Doug
Gamble.
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Action
Item:
None
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10.
DATE
OF
NEXT
MEETING
(AGM)
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May
2nd,
2003
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- Action
Item:
None
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11.
ADJOURNMENT
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1530
hrs.
M/S/C
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Action
Item:
None
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